Grain growth (GG) vs coarsening Difference: grains end up 2-sided (Fradkov, Udler), bubbles disappear with 3,4 or 5 sides. Open question: difference between scaling states, distributions Is curvature sometimes non-uniform in GG? Review paper Weaire & McMurry, Solid State physics. underlying physics: in GG surface energy is dependent on the direction of the crystal axes; no analogue in foams Time-scales of energy minimization and bubble volume evolution are very different in foams and polycrystals If time-scales are well-separated, the evolver is exact After a T1, the system has to choose between different possible new equilibrium configurations. In 2D, the viscous froth model is a possible answer to this problem. viscosity can be physical (mechanical?) or physico-chemical; or numerical viscosity (not robust - depends on meshing). What is mu_2(n) in the scaling state? 1.3 (Cox), 1.4 (Herdlte), 1.2 (Weaire) ... can the community pin this down? Compare values? What about for GG?